Rull sees the Isla-Puigdemont meeting as a "first step," but not as a political amnesty.

The Speaker of the Catalan Parliament, Josep Rull, sees the meeting between the President of the Generalitat (Catalan government), Salvador Illa, and the former president and leader of Junts (Junts), Carles Puigdemont, as a "first step" toward "recognition." However, in an interview with ACN, Rull said he "wouldn't dare" call it a political amnesty.