"What are you doing joining the PP?" is what Juan Carlos Girauta, former leader of Cs and now MEP for Vox, remembers telling his nephew when in 2012 he explained that he had decided to join the youth ranks of the Popular Party. At that time, Carlo Angrisano Girauta (Niça, 1996) was only fifteen years old, but had a very firm "conservative and right-wing" conviction. Although his uncle – with whom he has a "very close" relationship, as confirmed by both to ARA – tried to attract him to Cs, Angrisano resisted. "I am more right-wing than you," he used to tell me, Girauta continues, lamenting that his nephew did not let himself be influenced and ignored his warnings. "The PP is shit, if you stand out they will drown you so you don't cast a shadow on anyone," he told him.