10 I play it in the car, while doing manual labor, or on nights when I have trouble sleeping. More than a voice, it's a tone that accompanies me through these years in a country so in need of shelter and refuge, of spaces where, because there are so few, intelligence can find a home. Success comes when the host—an editor, a theater director, a program producer—has the authority to raise the level of those who take refuge in him. On Toni Clapés's program, the interviewees, contributors, and impersonators become more brilliant. It's instructive to hear the same voices that participate in the program on other shows.RAC1 versionto see how a contributor's performance rises in one place and falls in others. I'm not interested in current films or celebrity gossip, but inRAC1 versionIt's different. And vice versa, I'm interested in literature and politics, but I find many programs dedicated to them unbearable; they pretend to talk about literature or politics but in reality they talk about current films and celebrity gossip.

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