What better space to talk about Francesc Cambó (1876-1947) than the place that was his home? Specifically, his library, which remains intact, with all the shelves and all the books. This was the setting for a conversation between Borja de Riquer, the historian who knows the most about the factotum of the Lliga and his complex trajectory, and the deputy director of ARA, Ignasi Aragay.

A few days before the false news of his hospitalization, President Pujol summoned me to his office at home, on Ronda General Mitre. At 95, he keeps up with the times. He was eager to chat. We spent almost two hours, alone, making coffee.