We met with Josep Maria Mainat on July 7, just five days before the death of his longtime partner in adventure, Toni Cruz. "Do you want me to add anything to the interview?" I asked when I heard the news. He asked for a moment to think, and, shaken by the loss, finally replied: "It's better not to say anything." The pain is more than understandable, as their lives and their stories can only be understood when they are intertwined. And they begin on a train, the journey they shared to travel from Canet to Barcelona when they were two teenagers. It is on these journeys that La Trinca is born, it is from La Trinca that they are shown on television, and it is from these television appearances that they create Gestmusic, which would eventually become a true giant of audiovisual production. During the 1990s, they were the brains behind some of the most successful programs in the history of television, and in fact, Cruz was still at the forefront, having led the transformation of Barça One for three years. "I don't want to do TV anymore," says Mainat, a producer, singer, and much more. A great lover of science, he wrote the book "Barça One" years ago. Optimistic Science (Grijalbo publishing house) and is preparing to write specifically about science for the ARA. He debuts as a columnist with the section The Child's Things, which will be published on weekends in the summer paper, and has also been the focus of recent crime stories due to the attempted murder he suffered at the hands of his ex-wife, Angela Dobrowolski.