I interview Clàudia Gozzi (Barcelona, 1990) and Jaime Bes (El Burgo de Ebro, 1992) hours before they cook dishes alongside other colleagues of their generation and profession. We are at the Reversible restaurant (inside the Hotel Indigo) in Barcelona, and the dinner that has led them to move from La Pobla de Segur to Barcelona is called Generación del 25, which brings together the chefs nominated last year as best at the Gastronomic Forum Barcelona. They were among them. As we talk, we greet the others, gathered for the same reason: Fran Baixas, from Franca; Ricard, from El Cup Vell; Jeffrey Ruiz and Helena Termes, from La Cort del Mos, and Robert Lechuga and Esther Gómez, from the future restaurant Arrel, in Mataró.Clàudia and Jaime opened the restaurant El Raier in La Pobla de Segur in July 2022, where they have become a benchmark both for the region and for others due to their excellent new Catalan cuisine.