The dialogue between Artur Mas and Iñigo Urkullu begins with a warning from the moderator, who will set the tone for the event: "I have decided not to allow any questions on current political events." It is none other than former Catalan minister Santi Vila, who is hosting the discussion at the La Salle campus in Barcelona, ​​where he currently teaches in the Department of Philosophy and Humanities. Vila's warning is fulfilled from top to bottom, as the conversation between the two politicians touches on leadership skills, vocation, family, and also their farewell to the political frontline. The title of the discussion is eloquent: "By Vocation, a Politician."