Judith Butler is an activist who revolutionised gender theory and turned feminism upside down three decades ago with Gender Trouble (1990). She always places equality at the centre. She does not make distinctions, because she defends that all lives are worth the same and this is what the political imaginary should pick up. Butler has come to Barcelona to receive the 33rd International Catalonia Prize, awarded for "her civic and political commitment to combat all types of violence that condition the lives of certain groups". Hours before, she gave this interview to ARA. She looks fragile but grows when he speaks. She has a sly smile and practices what she preaches about the importance of taking care of each other. She cares about all of us who are there for this interview