All the will for dialogue and negotiation that is necessary with the State, but also all the firmness defending the best way out of the Catalan political conflict is a referendum on independence. This has been the calling card that the President of the Generalitat, Pere Aragonès, has given to the Catalan business community in his first speech in a relevant economic forum since he took office. The president spoke in the inaugural session of the economy conferences organized annually by the Cercle d'Economia, one of the key events of the year in Catalonia where businessmen and politicians debate the needs and opportunities of the current situation. Thus, Aragonès has guaranteed businessmen his firm "commitment with a stage of dialogue and negotiation" between his Government and the State, but he has also warned them that this will not mean that he renounces his convictions. He believes the solution is an amnesty for the victims of reprisals and a "democratic solution", that is to say, a referendum. The businessmen also had a message for Aragonès through the Cercle's president, Javier Faus. They applaud dialogue and endorse pardons, but show no sign of support for a referendum.